Scooter's Mail Order Supplies for Chronic Renal Failure (CRF)

Introduction: When we first began to infuse "Scooter" we quickly realized that the cost of prescription medications and other  supplies to treat Scooter's CRF would be major.  But then we found our first mail order vendor and realized "intelligent shopping" could control costs.  This site provides detailed information on the current "low-cost" mail order / Internet vendors selling fluids, IV admin sets, disposable needles and other supplies and prescription drugs useful in treating pets with CRF.  Almost all local pharmacies now sell fluids so do check the Local Fluids page also!  Please remember that treatment of CRF requires close supervision by a knowledgeable veterinarian including regular visits and appropriate blood, urine and other tests, and that IV fluids require a prescription anywhere in the U.S. - David Jacobson
In Memoriam.  "Scooter Cat" died in early September 2003 at 18 and 1/2.  Infusing and medicating Scooter for CRF gained us 4 additional years with our pal and we treasured every moment.  Scooter made me promise to maintain this site after his death to help folks finance their treatment of CRF and other chronic diseases through intelligent shopping.  This site is dedicated to Scooter's memory. Here's a video of the Scootster.


Important Note:  I am no longer updating the pricing for lactated ringers solution and other IV fluids due to the current IV fluids shortage. I will resume updating these tables when the shortage has abated.
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Price Comparisons
Table 1.  LRS, 12 IV sets, needles
Table 2.  LRS, 2 IV  sets, needles
Table 3.  LRS
Table 4.  12 IV sets, box needles
Table 5.  Normosol-R
Table 6.  DEHP-Free LRS 
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Pet Medication Discount Cards:  Here's an April 2016 comparison of Pet Discount Cards by Dawn Anderson.  The GoodRx and Your Pharmacy cards come out best in this comparison, with several others not far behind.

Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:41 AM
Subject: Local LRS success

I had success in getting the Braun DEHP free LRS case of 12 for $33 (after tax) using the NDC code and GoodRX at Walgreens, 140 Live Oak Ave, Arcadia, CA 91006  (626) 447-9117. I ordered it one day and picked up the next. I applied for the GoodRX just before I went in and used the temp card you receive immediately as a PDF to get the discount  ... We've been doing fluids for our CRF kitty JaJa for 6 years now and she's now 15.   DGW   [ Local Fluids











 
 
 
    

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"Scooter" Vansag  . . .  1985 - 2003




 
 
 
 


Mail Order Price Comparisons

Overview.  The tables below compare common CRF supplies orders. Please note that only vendors that sell all the products shown in each table are listed.  

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Table 1.  Mail Order Price Comparison
One Case LRS, 12 IV Admin Sets, 1 Box of Needles


Vendors    ...............................................

1 Case
LRS

12 IV
Admin Sets

1 Box
Needles

Shipping &
Handling


TOTAL


Brands

UPCO (1)







KVSupply (2)







ThrivingPets.com (3)





Fluids & IV Admin Brands:  AB = Abbott  HS = Hospira  BB = B.Braun/McGaw  BX = Baxter's  AM = Amsino 
Needle Brands:  TR = Terumo  MJ = Monoject

All cases of LRS include 12 liters except for UPCO which includes 14 liters!

  1. UPCO shipping is included but UPCO assesses a (minimal) handling charge based on the order total ($) -  $00.00 to $19.99 = $6.50, $20.00 to $49.99 = $5.50, $50.00 to $84.99 = $4.00, $85.00 and OVER = NONE. Note that UPCO ships Baxter fluids with 14 liters per case rather than 12.  UPCO does not sell prescription items to Virginia residents.
  2. KVSupply offers free shipping to the lower 48 on 80% of its products.  A $5 service charge is assessed for orders under $50.00.
  3. Thriving Pets.  Online orders over $75 receive free shipping to anywhere in the lower 48.  Online orders over $55 also qualify for a 10% discount extended to users of this site - enter the promo code scooter (small letters, no quotes).  Be careful - if the order total after the discount is applied is $75 or less, you'll lose your free shipping.  The figures in the table above include the 10% discount and free shipping!

 

 

Table 2.  Mail Order Price Comparison
One Case LRS, 2 IV Admin Sets, 1 Box of Needles


Vendors 

1 Case
LRS

2 IV
Admin Sets

1 Box
Needles

Shipping &
Handling

TOTAL

Brands

KVSupply (1)







Valleyvet.com (2)







UPCO (3)







ThrivingPets.com (4)







Fluids & IV Admin Brands:  AB = Abbott  HS = Hospira  BB = B.Braun/McGaw  BX = Baxter's  AM = Amsino 
Needle Brands:  TR = Terumo  MJ = Monoject

All cases of LRS include 12 liters except for UPCO which includes 14 liters!

    1. KVSupply offers free shipping to the lower 48 on 80% of its products.  A $5 handling fee is assessed for orders under $50.00
    2. Valley Vet prices include shipping.  Orders of $60 or less pay an additional $7 handling fee.  Valley Vet sells both Hospira and B.Braun fluids.  Hospira is cheaper and shown in the table above.
    3. UPCO shipping is included but UPCO assesses a (minimal) handling charge based on the order total ($) -  $00.00 to $19.99 = $6.50, $20.00 to $49.99 = $5.50, $50.00 to $84.99 = $4.00, $85.00 and OVER = NONE.  Note that UPCO ships Baxter fluids with 14 liters per case rather than 12.).  UPCO does not sell prescription items to Virginia residents.
    4. Thriving Pets.  Online orders over $75 receive free shipping to anywhere in the lower 48.  Online orders over $55 also qualify for a 10% discount extended to users of this site - enter the promo code scooter (small letters, no quotes).  Be careful - if the order total after the discount is applied is $75 or less, you'll lose your free shipping.  The figures in the table above include free shipping and the 10% scooter discount!

 


 

Table 3.  Mail Order Price Comparison
One Case LRS


Vendors 

1 Case
LRS*

Shipping & Handling

TOTAL

 $/Liter  

Brand

UPCO (1)*






KVSupply (2)






Valleyvet.com (3)






Doctors Foster & Smith (4)






Pet360 ( 5)






ThrivingPets.com - DC Delivery (6)






ThrivingPets.com - LA or Chicago Delivery (6)






Fluids Brands:   AB = Abbott  HS = Hospira   BB = B.Braun/McGaw   BX = Baxters
*All cases of LRS include 12 liters except for UPCO (14).

  1. UPCO shipping is included but UPCO assesses a (minimal) handling charge based on the order total ($) -  $00.00 to $19.99 = $6.50, $20.00 to $49.99 = $5.50, $50.00 to $84.99 = $4.00, $85.00 and OVER = NONE.  Note that UPCO ships Baxter fluids with 14 liters per case rather than 12.  UPCO does not sell prescription items to Virginia residents.
  2. KVSupply prices include free shipping.  The firm also charges an additional $5 handling fee for orders under $50.
  3. Valley Vet prices include shipping.  Orders of $60 or less pay an additional $7 handling fee.  Valley Vet sells both Hospira and B.Braun fluids.  Hospira is cheaper and shown in the table above.
  4. Doctors Foster & Smith has free shipping for most orders over $49.
  5. Pet360 ships orders of $49 or over for free to the lower 48.
  6. Thriving Pets.  Online orders over $75 receive free shipping to anywhere in the lower 48.  Online orders over $55 also qualify for a 10% discount extended to users of this site - enter the promo code scooter (small letters, no quotes).  Be careful - if the order total after the discount is applied is $75 or less, you'll lose your free shipping.  The figures in the table include both free shipping and the 10% scooter discount!

 

 

Table 4.  Mail Order Price Comparison
12 IV Admin Sets and 1 Box of Needles

Vendors

12 IV
Admin Sets

1 Box
Needles

Shipping &
Handling

 TOTAL 

Brands

Dealmed.com (1)






MVI Shopmedvet.com (2)






ThrivingPets.com - Chicago or LA Delivery (3)






ThrivingPets.com - DC Delivery (3)






TR=Terumo Needles   BB=B.Braun/McGaw IV sets   HS=Hospira Venosets   BX=Baxter Healthcare   CO=Codan
EX= Exel IV Sets  BD = BD Needles  MJ = Monoject Needles  AM=Amsino IV Sets

  1. Dealmed.com sells an Excel IV set, 78" long, 15 dpm, one injection site, DEHP-free for $1.25.  They sell BD needles.  Shipping is a flat $3.49 for USPS, $9.99 for UPS Ground.  Orders over $250 ship free.
  2. MVI offers several IV admin sets including a 100" long/10 dpmL (drops per milliliter), a 72" long/20 dpmL, etc.  Shipping and handling is $10 for all orders under $100.
  3. ThrivingPets' website calculates shipping cost.  Examples above include delivery to the West Coast (LA), the Midwest (Chicago) and the East (Washington, DC). 

 

Table 5.  Mail Order Price Comparison
One Case of Normosol-R or Plasma-lyte A


Vendor


Base Cost

Delivered to
Eastern US

Delivered to
Central US

Delivered to
Western US

Vet*America (1)





Doctors Foster & Smith (2)           





KVSuppy (3)





Valleyvet.com (4)





ThrivingPets.com (5)






Plasma-lyte A (7.4 ph) and  Normosol-R (6.6 ph) are essentially interchangeable.

Vendor order above based on delivered to Central U.S. cost.


  1. VetAmerica charges a flat $29 to ship a case of fluids anywhere in the lower 48.  VetAmerica also sells the hard to find 7.4 pH Normosol-R.
  2. Doctors Foster and Smith include shipping for most orders over $49.
  3. KVSupply sells PlasmaLyte A 7.4 pH.  Prices include shipping.  The firm also charges an additional $5 fee for orders under $50.
  4. Valleyvet.com sells PlasmaLyte A 7.4 pH.  Valleyvet.com includes shipping in its base cost for fluids and most items; however, a $7 handling charge is applied to orders that total less than $60.
  5. Thriving Pets.  Online orders over $75 receive free shipping to anywhere in the lower 48.  Online orders over $55 also qualify for a 10% discount extended to users of this site - enter the promo code scooter (small letters, no quotes).  Be careful - if the order total after the discount is applied is $75 or less, you'll lose your free shipping.  The figures in the table above includes both free shipping and the 10% discount!

 

Table 6.  Mail Order Price Comparison
One Case of DEHP-Free Lactated Ringers (LRS)


Vendor


Base Cost

Delivered to
Eastern US

Delivered to
Central US

Delivered to
Western US

Brand

Valleyvet.com (1) 







Fluids Brands:   HS = Hospira   BB = B.Braun/McGaw   BX = Baxters
Table above sorted on "Delivered to Central US" cost 


  1. Valleyvet.com includes shipping in its base cost for fluids and most items; however, a $7 handling charge is applied to orders that total less than $60. (Availability of this item from Valleyvet has been sporadic.)




 


Vet refuses to write a prescription?

38 of the 50 states require vets (by law or regulation) to write prescriptions when a patient/client relationship exists and the drug is medically appropriate.  Since the 38 that do require vets to prescribe include many of the most populous states (e.g., California, New York, etc.), the majority of vets in this country are required to prescribe rather than dispense.  Click here for detailed information on the law and regulations in each of the 50 states and the District of Columbia.

States take different approaches to regulating veterinary prescriptions.  Louisiana, Idaho and Wyoming include the ethical standards of the American Veterinary Medical Association (the vets' answer to the AMA) in their veterinary regulation statute. That includes the ethical standard that "Veterinarians should honor a client's request for a prescription in lieu of dispensing [sell from vet's own stock]."  In Virginia, a vet's refusal to prescribe would be deemed "unprofessional conduct."  In Vermont, it would be considered "profiteering."  Even in states where veterinary statutes and regulation do not require vets to prescribe, pharmacy laws may.

If a vet does refuse a prescription, check with the appropriate state veterinary and pharmacy boards and the state veterinary association.  Even if the state doesn't specifically require the vets to provide prescriptions, most vets will and state veterinary and pharmacy boards and even veterinary associations may be sympathetic and may lobby a recalcitrant vet on your behalf.


Talk to your vet  about the refusal - a friendly chat will often work.  If your vet still refuses, please write me with the details.  Remember that most vets are glad to write prescriptions and that needles and syringes can be obtained without a prescription in most states.


 

 

This web site is a product of me, David Jacobson. The information presented here is not guaranteed.  Contact the vendors listed directly for their current prices and policies.  Feel free to link this page to other pages and web sites dealing with the medical treatment of cats and dogs.  And please contact me with any updated information or additional vendors, or your comments, criticisms and suggestions.  I appreciate your help.

This web site first went online in April 2000.  It was dedicated to Scooter in September 2003.

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